From rmg3@access1.digex.net Mon Jul 14 07:56:53 EDT 1997 Article: 36505 of sci.geo.meteorology Path: news2.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: rmg3@access1.digex.net (Robert Grumbine) Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Arctic ice pack was Re: Global Warming Debate: Date: 13 Jul 1997 17:28:29 -0400 Organization: Under construction Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5qbh9t$p60@access1.digex.net> References: <5p9opn$bou@nnrp4.farm.idt.net><33C8F7FA.5E0D@alaska.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net Xref: news2.digex.net sci.geo.meteorology:36505 In article <33C8F7FA.5E0D@alaska.net>, Charles Samuels wrote: > >Most of the sensational remarks are not coming from responsible >researchers, but rather from pseudo-scientists. An example is a recent >news clip that claimed the Arctic Ocean ice cover was melting. And >another that said the Antarctic ice cap was melting and that the krill >had been reduced by 90 percent and everything, including the whales, >were going to die. > >There has been no research to indicate that either of these events has >occured. In the case of the Arctic ice pack, there is peer-reviewed journal work already in print to support the argument that the Arctic ice pack has shrunk over the period of record. (Johanneson? Johanson? and others in Nature.) I know of other, as yet unpublished but in the mills, work which supports this result (in one case, contrary to the researcher's personal expectations). So more to come. The exact meaning of the signal is a different debate, and the magnitude isn't far above the noise level. But, it is indeed a scientifically supported statement to say that the Arctic ice pack has been shrinking over the last two decades. Besides, it's spring now, of course the Arctic ice pack is melting. :-) -- Robert Grumbine rmg3@access.digex.net Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences