RADIO FREE USGENWEB....broadcasting live from pirate satellite! The following information represents summarized information from the minutes of the Advisory Board of the USGenWeb Project, obtained from the publicly available archives at Rootsweb. The original messages are no longer available at that site, and I have been placed under a threat of lawsuit if I post them. Thus they are here summarized for your information; all quotations from the original material are clearly marked and fall under the fair use' provision of U.S. Copyright law. If you want to see the originals, petition the Board for them. Message ID numbers have been provided to make this easier for you. Material in brackets constitutes editorial comments. All the following material represents the personal opinion of this author, based on my understanding of events and on the original material. As always, there are two sides to every coin, and if anyone wishes to clarify or rebut anything below, I will be happy to post it. 6 DECEMBER 1998 Highlights: Moving state pages and bad links; SC elections; NC nominations, a Board member resigns [almost]; Board members' legs. ++++++++++ Board member Yvonne forwards a message from a project member to the group regarding bad link to a state page. Seems that the KY state page had been moved for some time [it moved shortly after Nancy Trice was driven to resign. Ed.] but the national page was still linking to the old page. Yvonne is concerned that the issue be handled "before it escalates. IE: goes to the ALL list." (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 23:37:35 -0500; From: Yvonne James-Henderson ; Message-ID: <366B5B8F.AB682DA2@idt.net>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] Ooops!) Bridget assumes that "the powers that be" were not notified that the page moved, and wonders "how on earth" the webmaster can be expected to change pages if she isn't notified. [If I recall correctly, the table was changed in a timely fashion, but the image map link was not changed, as that requires someone from Rootsweb to do it; our USGW "webmaster" doesn't know how. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:31:46 -0800; From: "Bridgett Smith" ; Message-Id: <199812070437.UAA28625@jubjub.wizard.com>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Ooops!) Beth Wills sends her resignation letter to her fellow Board members. She states she has resigned her three counties and therefore no longer qualifies for the position of CC representative. In part, she states that, "This was a very difficult decision for me to make as I have given my heart and soul to this project...I do not think that I want to continue to do this as a volunteer. I received again today, a message from a researcher that felt that my county pages were exceptionally poor and for the most part "invalid". It is time for me to get on with my life..." She wishes the rest of the Board well and says she will "pray for your survival." [within a few days, she had rescinded her resignation. A few weeks later, she again resigned and was again talked out of it. Then she decided to run for NC. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:11:18 -0500; From: "Beth Wills" ; Message-ID: <01be215c$f7950940$5cbb8ecf@default>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) Kay responds to a message forwarded to the list by Bridgett noting that the GA State Coordinator has resigned. She wonders if they should add the election for the GA SC to the already planned special election and brings up a topic they've apparently discussed before: "a person being an SC in only one state at at time." The ASC for GA and obvious successor was also an SC in another state. She wonders if this is the reason they haven't received a nomination for that individual yet for National Coordinator. (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 07:06:36 -0800; From: "Kay Mason" ; Message-Id: <199812061509.HAA20211@mail.networkone.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] GAGenWeb) Bridgett forwards the GA SC's resignation to Board-Exec as an explanation for why he was stepping down. She also mentions the ASC is going out of town for a time and will use the trip to think "about his priorities, etc. whatever that really means in regards to running for NC, don't know." Bridgett notes that it is her feeling that the GA SC's resignation took his ASC and CCs by surprise, since the ASC was usually very good at keeping her informed if anything was going on. The attached letter from the GA SC essentially says the job is too big and he can't do it justice. It also notes that he appointed the ASC as interim SC until an election can be held. (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 08:55:14 -0800; From: "Bridgett Smith" ; Message-Id: <199812061700.JAA08983@jubjub.wizard.com>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] From the GAGen List) Debbie resends her question regarding election committee member selection to the list, as she had not yet seen an answer to it from the Election Committee Chair. She informs the EC Chair that on "On Oct 17, I fwd a request by [name deleted] stating she would like to volunteer for the Elections Committee. On Oct 19, another request by [name deleted]. On Oct 20 you confirmed that you had received [name deleted] request and would keep it in mind. There was no confirmation on [name deleted]. If there were only 4 volunteers, what happened to these two?" (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 09:47:11 -0700; From: "Debbie Wafford" ; Message-Id: <199812061641.JAA21994@mars.aros.net>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] (Fwd) Re: Elections committee) Kay posts a message that she is very sorry that Beth is resigning, although she understands her reasons. She hopes she will reconsider, as she will be very much missed. (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 14:51:14 -0800; From: "Kay Mason" ; Message-Id: <199812062254.OAA21582@mail.networkone.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) Bridgett also posts that she is sorry to hear that Beth is resigning, but she understands "where you are coming from, I've been to that point many times in the last year myself, just haven't had the sense enough to cross over and say enough.'" She wishes Beth well and says she will miss her new friend. (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 19:39:28 -0800; From: "Bridgett Smith" ; Message-Id: <199812070344.TAA14315@jubjub.wizard.com>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) Bob Bamford posts a reply to Kathy's question [see Dec 6 messages] about whether or not her vote counts since she is only a temporary member. Bob tells her that she appears in the "vote passed" message to the Board for both motions in question and indicates that "Celia posted your vote in lemon juice. Run a match under the page and Celia will make your vote appear." He notes that the last comment was a joke. [The failure to properly note the members' various votes is an occasional problem on the "Member's Votes" page of the national webpage. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:48:07 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981206054807.007dd810@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Question) Bob responds to Kay's message about members being SC in more than one state. He says [referencing the bylaws], "the below says anybody can be an NC (living proof speaking) but SC and CC reps must come from those ranks." [I think he did, indeed, miss the question. Kay was referring to the appropriateness of the ASC in GA becoming the SC, when he is already an SC in another state. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 10:59:11 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981206105911.007bee20@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] GAGenWeb) Kay posts an note indicating that she has over 800 messages from the -ALL list which she sorted alphabetically. She finds it interesting who writes the most, but then teases the other Board members: "NO, I'm not going to count them for you, and I bet you can guess anyway" . Then she says she's going to delete them all they are taking up space on her hard drive [Guess we'll never know. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 10:24:29 -0800; From: "Kay Mason" ; Message-Id: <199812061827.KAA23823@mail.networkone.net>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] ALList) Teresa posts her farewell to Beth message, stating that she sees where she is coming from and encouraging Beth to "smell those roses, read those books and sew some." (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 15:19:51 -0600; From: Teresa Davis ; Message-Id: <199812062119.QAA29384@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) Ginger posts a message to Beth, also stating "Life is too fleeting to waste any of it... go enjoy and smell a few of those roses for me, too!" (Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:25:49 EST; From: ; Message-ID: <41d7bcdd.366af65d@aol.com>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) Bob, in response to a message from Pam in which she indicates "I actually have pretty nice legs!", assures everyone that he has never seen Pam's legs or the legs of anyone on the Board. He has a beautiful wife who constantly makes self-deprecating remarks about her own appearance; thus he assumes that when Pam says she has nice legs, they must be very nice indeed. Then he suggests, "Someone give this entire dialogue to merope so she can "leak" what the board talks about in secret." [Ask and ye shall receive, Bob. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:25:09 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981206172509.007d68c0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] not relevant) Bob posts a message to Beth regarding her resignation. He states, "the tone a finality of your message leads me to believe that attempting to dissuade you would be of no avail." He regrets her decision, but understands because he "feels her pain". He notes that it would be quite simple for Beth "to remain as Co or Asst. CC in one or all of your counties and still retain your board seat. In fact there is no precedent, under the current By-laws, that would require you to step down from the board, having given up your counties." He encourages her to take advantage of the "number of doors" he's left open to her and asks her to think about it. He notes that being "relieved of the front line' responsibility of her counties" would allow her to catch up on things while still making a contribution to USGW. [He shouldn't have worried. Her "final decision" turned out to be not so final after all. Ed.] (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:41:26 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981206174126.007bd830@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] With regrets) In response to Betsy's question about who sent a request to Rootsweb for the link from their main page, Bob notes that he sent a message to Brian immediately after the vote was completed. (Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:35:07 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981206053507.007d4eb0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Request for link to RootsWeb) ------------------------------ Radio Free USGENWEB, 1999, Teresa Lindquist, all rights reserved.