RADIO FREE USGENWEB....broadcasting live from pirate satellite! The following information represents summarized information from the minutes of the Advisory Board of the USGenWeb Project, obtained from the publicly available archives at Rootsweb. The original messages are no longer available at that site, and I have been placed under a threat of lawsuit if I post them. Thus they are here summarized for your information; all quotations from the original material are clearly marked and fall under the fair use' provision of U.S. Copyright law. If you want to see the originals, petition the Board for them. Message ID numbers have been provided to make this easier for you. Material in brackets constitutes editorial comments. All the following material represents the personal opinion of this author, based on my understanding of events and on the original material. As always, there are two sides to every coin, and if anyone wishes to clarify or rebut anything below, I will be happy to post it. 8 DECEMBER 1998 Highlights: Perfume preferences; member resignations, adjournment; future business, including elections, communication problems, a Board secretary, a Daily Board Report, and killing the USGENWEB-ALL list. ++++++++++ Bob Bamford, acting National Coordinator suggest adjourning Dec 16 and reconvening on Jan 2, and lists some business for the group to consider: 1. Perfume preferences of the members 2. Vacation pay; he suggests "Current Rate X 2" [note: this appears to be a joke. Ed.] 3. Perfume preferences have been sent to Santa 1. Adding Deb [Wafford] to the ballot, along with Beth [Wills] 2. Resolution of "the communication thing" currently under discussion. 3. Secretary motion tabled at the Oct 4 meeting (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 05:07:57 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208050757.007d4d20@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Beth Wills posts that her SC has convinced her to remain. Her preferred perfume is "White Diamonds" or "Raid" [when at her job]. She discusses her job, which she apparently doesn't like. (Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:57:21 -0500; From: "Beth Wills" ; Message-ID: <01be22a1$e98c07e0$77bb8ecf@default>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Beth posts about the "communication issue". All but one region has formed its own mailing list wherein members can keep in contact with their Board reps and where Board reps can keep county and state coordinators informed of current discussion topics. She approves the idea of a daily board report but wonders where it will be posted and posits that if it were posted to the regional list, they could steer people away from the -ALL list. (Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:13:22 -0500; From: "Beth Wills" ; Message-ID: <01be22a4$2609a5e0$77bb8ecf@default>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Jan Craven posts that it is the SW region that has no list and offers to be the listowner for that region unless Kathy [Heidel] wants to do it. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:39:55 -0700; From: Jan Craven ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208073955.00825490@mail.usunwired.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Holly Timm posts her approval that Beth is not resigning and asks Debbie to change her mind. She thinks the regional mailing list is a good idea to circumvent the -ALL list and suggests posting the DBR [Daily Board Report] to those lists and also publicizing it by having SCs to mention them on their info pages and mentioning them in the national guidelines. Her solution is a simple one: "We just ignore the ALL list, drop all references to it on the national site and nudge the SC's to remove it from their state sites if they have it there". (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:58:20 -0500; From: Holly Timm ; Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981208165820.046b7100@mail.bright.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Bob Bamford is under the impression that NE/NC is the region that has no regional mailing list [incorrectly; see above. Ed.] He is also in favor of sending the DBR to the regional lists. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:26:48 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208072648.007be3c0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Jan Craven responds to Debbie Wafford's resignation letter, expressing her sorrow and wishing Debbie well. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:23:42 -0700; From: Jan Craven ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208072342.0081f350@mail.usunwired.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Resignation) Ginger also supports the idea of sending the Board's Daily Report to the regional lists, noting that among its other [already listed] benefits, it negates the argument of allowing members to sub to BOARD-L. (Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:22:06 EST; From: ; Message-ID: <26aa1bca.366d27fe@aol.com>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Yvonne posts a big "YAY" that Beth is not resigning and wishes Deb would stay as well. She also shares with the group that she, Holly, and Bridgett use their regional lists to post all messages from BOARD-L [Really? Ed.] and send any feedback received "to the Board members, (now the Board-Exec list)" [Interesting. This shows that at least one Board member considers the BOARD-EXEC list to be the Board's meeting place, rather than a special executive session list. Ed.] (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:43:20 -0500; From: Yvonne James-Henderson ; Message-ID: <366D2CF8.D39B72A2@idt.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] UPDATE: Xmas is Coming) Beth Wills tells Bob Bamford that she has the NE/NC list waiting until she can figure out how best to utilize it. She gives a list of mailing lists already set up: USGenWeb-NE-L USGenWeb-NW-L USGenWeb-SE-L Thus, the SW/SC region is the only region without a mail list. (Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:56:42 -0500; From: "Beth Wills" ; Message-ID: <01be22b2$95ae3e20$4dbb8ecf@default>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Kathy Heidel posts that it is OK with her if Jan Craven handles the SW list and she will handle the SC regional list and says if she loses the election, Eric [Segal, former candidate for the SW/SC rep position] can take over her lists. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:16:10 -0600; From: Kathy Welch Heidel ; Message-ID: <366D34A9.6FB52CD2@tri.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) In a second post on this topic, Kathy notes that if she loses the election, "you all get the booby prize". (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:23:24 -0600; From: Kathy Welch Heidel ; Message-ID: <366D365B.233050F@tri.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Jan informs Kathy that only one list is needed for the SW/SC region and says if Kathy wants to be listowner for it she is welcome to it, as "it doesn't matter who the listowner is anyway." (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:43:15 -0700; From: Jan Craven ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208084315.0082a330@mail.usunwired.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Communication) Kathy tells Jan she misunderstood and says she [Jan] may run the list, since Kathy is quite busy with other things and may not be here after the election. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:00:06 -0600; From: Kathy Welch Heidel ; Message-ID: <366D5B14.2C843EA4@tri.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Jan asks for Kathy, Trey, and Betsy's [SW/SC SC and CC reps] blessing before she starts the list and promises not to post messages from BOARD-L or to make any comments on Board business. She says she is "an innocent bystander" and merely offering to run the list to help them out, but if any of them want to do it, they are welcome. She is specifically waiting on responses from Betsy and Trey. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:25:31 -0700; From: Jan Craven ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208112531.00849a80@mail.usunwired.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Teresa Davis emphatically states her support for the idea of posting daily Board reports to the regional lists. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:25:01 -0600; From: Teresa Davis ; Message-Id: <199812081824.NAA00868@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Bob Bamford requests instructions on how to subscribe to the NE/NC regional list. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:45:46 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208134546.007ad6e0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Communication) Bob Bamford, in response to Kathy Heidel's mention of Eric Segal possibly winning a Board seat asks her if that is a threat and asks "where are the ballot boxes?" [What?! Could he possibly be thinking of tampering with the election? Ed.] (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:51:55 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208135155.007cc8b0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Bob indicates he has subbed to the NE/NC regional list and hopes he is accepted by the listowner. He posts also that he has been accepted and now has "another outlet for my phornographic [sic] books". (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:54:21 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208135421.007cb4f0@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) Bridgett Smith posts a long "catchup" post, as she apparently does not read her email on Mondays: 1. She is allergic to perfume and would prefer a copy of the 1860 census for Greene Co., TN. 2. A break from the board over the holidays would be nice 3. She is glad Beth is not resigning 4. She is sorry Debbie is leaving but understands and wishes her well 5. She enjoyed the "Cajun Christmas" joke [not included here. Ed.] 6. In re: accepting resignations, she wonders if resignations should be sent to BOARD-L before the Board votes on accepting/rejecting them, so that it appears they are not doing things in "secred [yes, appearances are very important. Ed.] She herself would be surprised to read that the Board had accepted a resignation before learning that a resignation had been submitted. 7. She doesn't think they should rename the "bitch list" [the USGENWEB-ALL list. Ed.] She supports removing it from the project page. 8. She requests to be informed if she's left anything out. (Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:03:23 -0800; From: "Bridgett Smith" ; Message-Id: <199812081909.LAA27593@jubjub.wizard.com>; Subject: [Board-Exec-L] Catching Up) Bob Bamford indicates he wishes he could take Mondays off too, and that Bridgett is correct in that Debbie's resignation should be posted to BOARD-L and he will do so. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 14:47:50 -0500; From: Bob Bamford ; Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981208144750.007cda90@citrus.infi.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Catching Up) Holly Timm's suggestion regarding the -ALL list: "death from neglect is some how even appropriate.... we just divorce the bitch". (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:00:50 -0500; From: Holly Timm ; Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981208170050.046c3560@mail.bright.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Catching Up) Teresa Davis supports Holly Timm's above comment. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:20:45 -0600; From: Teresa Davis ; Message-Id: <199812090320.WAA23396@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Catching Up) Trey Holt tells Jan Craven that it is OK with him if she manages the SW/SC list, as he is very busy. (Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:58:53 -0600; From: Trey Holt ; Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981208235853.018b3100@txcyber.com>; Subject: Re: [Board-Exec-L] Solution 4) ------------------------------ Radio Free USGENWEB, 1998, Teresa Lindquist, all rights reserved.